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The last thing I did before leaving this morning was post a debate in booju_newju asking if the U.S. should socialize their health care system. As a result, I haven't read much of my friends page - I've been replying and managing discussion over there ever since I got home.



I'm wondering about the perceived connection between long wait times and socialized medicine. There is a connection, certainly, but it's not, "Oh no! If the government is paying for it, we'll have to wait!" From my point of view, it appears to be mostly about infrastructure. We do not have enough doctors or other specialists, and if we did, we would lack some of the operating theatres, hospital beds, and other necessary things to reduce wait times. This is a systemic problem, certainly, but it is not one that would appear immediately upon instituting socialized medicine. The U.S. already has the infrastructure, and they certainly have enough doctors. (They could send back a few of the ones they've borrowed from us, actually. We need them ourselves.) There might be some shortages when all the currently-uninsured suddenly had access to the whole system, but they'd be manageable, and probably much of it would be absorbed by the current system. After all, everyone would have a lot more time to see patients if they weren't filling out dozens of forms and attempting to get blood from a stone payment from people who have no money.

Also, what's with this idea that "The government will tell me which doctors I have to see!" That is totally, categorically false. In fact, I have more choice of doctors than many insured Americans whose insurance companies tell them which doctors they're willing to pay for. I can see any doctor in Ontario by presenting my health card, if I have a referral. And, while I know many people who have to wait, I never have. It depends on the specialty how long you'll wait, and once you're on their patient roster, you won't have to wait again to see the doctor - though you may have to wait for your surgery. See previous comment about infrastructure.

Last complaint I have little patience with - "Our taxes will be too high for us to afford to eat!" Okay, maybe your taxes would go up - though it should be possible to do it for the amount already being paid for Medicare - but your health premiums would (almost) disappear, and the savings would be rather greater than the increase in taxes. No, the rich are not going to flee to places where they don't have to support the poor. There aren't a whole lot of those places left, at least not places where the rich would actually want to live.

Okay, I'm done now.

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Date: 2009-03-08 06:25 am (UTC)
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That's a wonderful story.

I'm not a Christian, and I'm not from a Christian family, but I'm friendly towards Christianity and interested in learning about other people's beliefs (and have read more of the Bible than many Christians I know personally).

I'm not sure what my opinion of rituals are. I'll have to think about it some more.

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Date: 2009-03-08 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
I've migrated to the Unitarian Universalist church fairly recently - like, within the last year - and for the moment I'm happy there. But it wasn't easy, and it's still not.

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Date: 2009-03-08 06:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pthalo
It's not easy, no. But I don't think it's meant to be. I believe one of our purposes in life is to try to get closer to God, in terms of our relationship with God. And for any relationship to be meaningful, there has to be struggle and hardships endured. My best friend is the person I pooled my money with to buy milk and bread for dinner at the end of the month in university (something I remember quite fondly, mostly because it was shared and we always had something to laugh about), the one who's seen me through many hard times and I her, not the people I've never scratched the surface with. I think if things get too comfortable, it means we're not growing. But I think it's okay to take breaks from growing and be comfortable for a while too.

But I'm still figuring things out.

I've done a lot of looking around and stayed with what I was raised with, deciding it was what fit me the best, all things considered. And I'm happy here, for the most part. I deal with religion is a fairly cyclic fashion. I'll work on my God issues for a while quite intensely and then I'll make peace with things or at least give it a rest for a while. Right now I'm more working on other issues, and I can't muster the energy to iron out my relationship with God too (most of my God issues have nothing to do with religion, luckily), so I'm sort of in an accepting place, where I don't think too much about the things that bother me, and when I do, they don't bother me all that much.

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