Seeing red.

[velvetpage]

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070121/25323.htm

Now, my mother was ordained. My MIL was ordained. My great-grandmother was ordained. The pastors at my church, husband and wife, are ordained, and Mrs. Captain preaches more often of the two. And to the best of my knowledge, they all did their jobs well. I fail to see why a single sentence from a misogynist two thousand years ago, taken out of its cultural context, should prevent this woman from doing her job - even if her job were to be a pastor, which it wasn't.

These people are not a credit to my faith.

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[merlyn4401.livejournal.com]

o.O

No wonder so many people hate Christians. :(

[dagoski.livejournal.com]

This is why Christianity is dying in the Lower 48. Basically you have these whackos and shrinking silent mass. The whackos have so effictively spoken on the behalf of everyone in the faith that an increasing number of people are giving up on Christianity. The choice that's presented is that in order to beleive, you have to hate and that's unappealing to sane people. The ranks of the whackos grow, but I can hardly call what they believe and practice Christianity. I've read a bit of Paul here and there and he's definitely down on women, but he's not all thrilled with men either and his statements that limit women usually have a second half that tell men they have to be worthy and that they have reciprocal responsibilities themselves. The whole wedding vow thing is a good case in point.

[sassy-fae.livejournal.com]

I hope she files for wrongful dismissal.

I'm willing to bet they had a private reason for wanting her out and this was the most convenient way to do it.

It's the loonies that are giving the majority of relatively sane Christians a bad name, and it's really got to stop. I'd like to see the day when the term "devout Christians" brought to mind a caring, open-minded, sane group of people. I suspect Jesus would not be impressed with the followers (and their leaders) that are supposedly acting in His name in the modern day.

*shakes head and goes back to the solitary worship that seems to make so much more sense these days*

[stress-kitten.livejournal.com]

I still like the bumper sticker:

"Dear God, save me from your fan club."

Sad that so many all of those who get the press are the rabid, frothing sort of Christian... I actually like most of the Christians I actually know... but then they demonstrate their faith by their life, not through preaching at me.

[sassy-fae.livejournal.com]

Amen to that! :D

[bandersnitch.livejournal.com]

On the bright side of all of this, she can clearly sue for sexual discrimination as she was clearly let go purely for her gender.

Not that it makes it right, but she could seriously make them regret taking this "religious" stance.

[hillarygayle.livejournal.com]

I'm not perfectly clear on the standing of the institution in this case, but I think if you're a religious institution, you can't really be sued for hiring/firing practices on religious grounds. At the school I went to, faculty members were fired if they did not regularly attend a church of Christ service.

[anenomemama.livejournal.com]

That Paul, sheesh. Some of the stuff he said - so wacko.

[hillarygayle.livejournal.com]

I'm almost certain that's a case of "looking for a reason to fire her". Even at Harding, female professors were everywhere, with all sorts of authority over men in their classes, and that was a hardcore conservative church of Christ school. These folks don't want to take that route, because if they aren't going to be hypocrites, they're going to have to reject the authority of female police officers, judges, and other women in clear authority over ALL of us. I'd just LOVE to see that one go in a traffic stop.

[velvetpage.livejournal.com]

I think you're probably right. The fact that she simply moved on to another job fairly quickly seems to indicate that she knows what's really going on and isn't saying, too.

The fact that they could possibly make such an excuse and have any plausibility bugs me as much as the fact that they DID make it.

[r-caton.livejournal.com]

Go for sex descrimination and damn the beggars. Thats what the LAW is FOR.

[velvetpage.livejournal.com]

The problem is that in the U.S., the right to freedom of religion trumps everyone else's right to freedom from discrimination. If it's a religious institution, it's immune to those laws.

[rallymama.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, one of the rights that also gets trampled is the freedom FROM religion, but that's a sociopolitical discussion beyond the scope of this situation.

...or maybe it's not. Selective reading/translation/interpretation of the Bible is at the heart of both matters. I wonder just how many of the Commandments that little trick breaks?

[sassy-fae.livejournal.com]

Well, if they could be said to have 'stolen' her job away from her..

[neosis.livejournal.com]

This is what is wrong with (Monetheistic Organized) Religion, it's entirely authoritarian.

This guy who lived a long time ago gave us this rule, which you have to live by. No, you can't argue with it, it's the rule handed down by God. If you really want to argue it, we can arrange an appointment.

[paka.livejournal.com]

Yeah, tell me about it. I really have never understood this whole G-d-doesn't-like-female-clergy thing. It really makes no sense with Judaism (Orthodox; Reform have female rabbis and Conservatives are starting to rethink it), where it's all tradition, not even related to the source material.

And Paul? Not Jesus, memory serves he wasn't even one of the original followers. You'd figure that people would be a lot less rabid about it.