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Date: 2006-10-16 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neebs.livejournal.com
The ONLY upside to this will be to HAVE to recognize some sort of gay union type thing or else women are going to die and then we can start blaming the anti-gay marriage people for straight women's deaths.

That is not very eloquent and I don't know if it makes sense, but my complete RAGE over this situation is clouding my verbal abilities.

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Date: 2006-10-16 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dornbeast.livejournal.com
Oh, good grief.

Personally, I'd find it amusing if the end result was to strike down the ban on gay marriage. Such irony is, sadly, in short supply these days.

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Date: 2006-10-16 06:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wyldraven.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, the gay marriage ban in question is in the state constitution, and therefore wins. Period. Whether the claimed exemption put forth by the misogynstic asshole in question survives is still open to consideration.

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Date: 2006-10-16 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dagoski.livejournal.com
Do you know where the text of the ammendment can be found? I'm curious what part of applies to this case. I can look it up, but, as Granovetter noted, we all prefer social networks to institutional sources in our information seeking behavior.

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Date: 2006-10-16 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wyldraven.livejournal.com
I don't know, and am honestly having trouble finding it. I did find this:
OHIO Current law:
  • DOMA written into state constitution and state law

  • Legislation: State constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage placed on the Nov. 2 ballot by citizen initiative groups and approved by voters.

here (http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15576).

Oops - just found it. See the PDF found here: Ohio Constitution (http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/constitution.pdf)
ยง 11 MARRIAGE.
Only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage valid in or recognized by this state and its political subdivisions. This state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage.
. Looks like the asshole may have a case. IANAL

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-16 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, because the ban on gay marriage is now part of the state constitution, the effect will be exactly the opposite.

SARCASM ALERT

Date: 2006-10-16 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etherlad.livejournal.com
Yay! Finally the government will recognize that we have the right to beat up anyone we feel like, just a slong as thems homos don't express their icky "feelings" for each other!

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-16 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-caton.livejournal.com
Obscene but so, so, logical.

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Date: 2006-10-17 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hendrikboom.livejournal.com
The real question here is why repeated assaults on other people should be treated any more lightly than assaults on one's spouse.

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Date: 2006-10-17 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
The spousal abuse laws allow the police to press charges when the woman won't, which is not true of more generic assault cases. It's also much easier to get a restraining order in a domestic abuse case. And in many states, restraining orders carry restrictions on firearm ownership. But I see your point - why is assault on an acquaintance a misdemeanour, when assault on family is a felony?

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Date: 2006-10-17 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neosis.livejournal.com
If I told you, you wouldn't like the answer.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
Please, explain it. I'm really confused, here.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-17 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The explanation that jumps to mind immediately is pretty simple:

In violent assault against "acquaintances" the victims are most likely (~ 80%, if I remember the statistic correctly) to be male. The domestic assault laws tend to be pushed by feminist lobbies. Those same lobbies have no vested interest in aiding or protecting men, thus only those laws which disporportionately benefit women get pushed by them.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-17 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com
How very ironic.

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