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velvetpage ([personal profile] velvetpage) wrote2008-07-08 09:05 am
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Creationists getting their comeuppance

Wow. This exchange is an excellent example of a creation "scientist" being put in his place by a real scientist. The second reply is the fun one.

I especially liked the postscripts where the scientist impugned the creationists' practice of Christianity, first on the grounds that creationists seek to put the same limits on God's ability to create the world that they have on their own ability to understand that creation, and then on the fact that they are practising deceit on several levels throughout the exchange. Nice.

(Note: though I'm pretty sure I don't have anyone on my friends list who is both a Christian and a Creationist, please be assured that my scorn is directed solely at the latter. Anyone who is content to see the creation story as a myth told to a pre-scientific society, that is spiritually rather than literally true, does not come in for it.)
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[personal profile] used_songs 2008-07-08 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi! I'm here from [livejournal.com profile] pyat.

I really enjoyed the Lenski letters. I think my favorite part was when he explained that he was making an allusion and then provided a link. I had read about this exchange, but hadn't yet taken the time to read the actual documents. Thanks for prodding me into doing so.

[identity profile] velvetpage.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
No problem. I lol'ed at that part, too. :)

[identity profile] stress-kitten.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
In other words, it’s not that we claim to have glimpsed “a unicorn in the garden” – we have a whole population of them living in my lab! [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unicorn_in_the_Garden] And lest you accuse me further of fraud, I do not literally mean that we have unicorns in the lab. Rather, I am making a literary allusion. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allusion

Yeah, that was a lovely move on the part of the writer. :-) The undertone of "ok, I'm going to treat you like a retarded duckling, because that what your responses inform me you are..." is wonderful.